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		<title>by: msteele</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3189</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice to learn today that Gov. Huntsman asked Scott Matheson Jr. to head the panel investigating the mine disaster and recommending what steps Utah should take in mine regulation. A 'bipartisan' investigation, particularly when headed by someone as qualified as Matheson, should improve the chances of the panel accomplishing something good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to learn today that Gov. Huntsman asked Scott Matheson Jr. to head the panel investigating the mine disaster and recommending what steps Utah should take in mine regulation. A &#8216;bipartisan&#8217; investigation, particularly when headed by someone as qualified as Matheson, should improve the chances of the panel accomplishing something good.
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		<title>by: brucew</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3152</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I suspect if any good is going to come out of this, it is going to be the appointment of people to MSHA who see things from the perspective of the workers who risk their lives more than that of the owners who risk money.  As I write this, the owners of the mine have called a press conference to address criticism.  It will be interesting if Bob Murry shows up at all and if he does if he takes any responsibility or simply delivers another self-serving lecture to the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect if any good is going to come out of this, it is going to be the appointment of people to MSHA who see things from the perspective of the workers who risk their lives more than that of the owners who risk money.  As I write this, the owners of the mine have called a press conference to address criticism.  It will be interesting if Bob Murry shows up at all and if he does if he takes any responsibility or simply delivers another self-serving lecture to the media.
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		<title>by: lostinutah</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3106</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>tyronepd, if you are new to Utah, and this was a shocker, you are in for a lot more surprises than the Trib this a.m.

I'm just sayin'....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tyronepd, if you are new to Utah, and this was a shocker, you are in for a lot more surprises than the Trib this a.m.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;&#8230;.
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		<title>by: tyronepd</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3104</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3104</guid>
					<description>I read the silly editorial in the tribune this morning. I'm a newcomer here in SLC. Is this paper for real? It was darn right silly. Here's what the local big time paper should be  saying about this awful disaster:

'What's Wrong with America?', John Sweeney, president of the AFL-CIO

Earlier this month, Steve Skvara, a disabled, retired steel worker who can't afford his wife's health care, shook the AFL-CIO's Presidential Candidates Forum by asking tearfully, "What's wrong with America?"

We should all be asking that question today.

We've got six coal miners trapped beneath more than 1,500 feet of Utah coal and rock, three brave men who struggled to rescue them are dead and six more are injured.

And it's not because of an act of God. It's because of the acts of man.

The disaster still unfolding at the Crandall Canyon mine did not have to happen. It was preventable--as were the deaths of 12 coal miners last year in the Sago Mine in West Virginia. As have been many, many more deaths of workers in America's coal mines and factories, fishing vessels, offices and construction sites.

Safety concerns about the Crandall Canyon mine surfaced months ago, and safety experts warned of particular dangers in the "retreat mining" technique used there after it was approved by the federal Mine Safety and Health Administration. In retreat mining, coalminers essentially pull out roof-supporting pillars of coal as they work their way out of the mine. The retreat mining plan at Crandall Canyon, says United Mine Workers of America President Cecil Roberts, "appears to have been flawed, to say the least. In our opinion, that plan should never have been approved."

No one should be surprised it was approved, though. The Bush administration has been systematically dismantling and cutting funding for workplace safety rules and oversight since it came into office.

Every day in 2005 (the most recent data available), 16 workers died on the job and 12,000 were made sick--and that doesn't include the occupational diseases that kill 50,000 to 60,000 more workers each year. In many if not most of these cases, one of two things occurred: An employer disregarded the law, or the law wasn't strong enough to protect workers.

Something is deeply wrong with America today. Working men and women have lost their value to the people who have been running this country for too long. Ruthless CEOs wring working people dry and the neocon ideologues in the White House help them.

Our wages are stagnant, our benefits are disappearing, the middle class is shrinking and, for the first time, there's a good chance our children will not be better off than our generation. We're the most productive workers in the world but we have to work more hours, more jobs and send more family members into the workforce just to keep up.

The heroes who rushed to Ground Zero to save lives and who dug and sweated and struggled for months after Sept. 11, 2001, are suffering today from neglect and indifference. Neglect and indifference left thousands stranded on rooftops and in a dark convention center after Hurricane Katrina. Neglect and indifference meant deplorable conditions for veterans recovering at Walter Reed. Neglect and indifference kill far too many of us on the job.

There's a reason so many people who never will step foot in a coal mine are riveted by the story of the trapped, dead and injured miners. There's a reason Steve Skvara's comment at our presidential forum moved so many people. There's a reason candidates committed to improving the well-being of working men and women took back Congress last year and will take back the White House next year.

Working men and women--the great majority in this country--want to fix what's wrong with America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the silly editorial in the tribune this morning. I&#8217;m a newcomer here in SLC. Is this paper for real? It was darn right silly. Here&#8217;s what the local big time paper should be  saying about this awful disaster:</p>
<p>&#8216;What&#8217;s Wrong with America?&#8217;, John Sweeney, president of the AFL-CIO</p>
<p>Earlier this month, Steve Skvara, a disabled, retired steel worker who can&#8217;t afford his wife&#8217;s health care, shook the AFL-CIO&#8217;s Presidential Candidates Forum by asking tearfully, &#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with America?&#8221;</p>
<p>We should all be asking that question today.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve got six coal miners trapped beneath more than 1,500 feet of Utah coal and rock, three brave men who struggled to rescue them are dead and six more are injured.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not because of an act of God. It&#8217;s because of the acts of man.</p>
<p>The disaster still unfolding at the Crandall Canyon mine did not have to happen. It was preventable&#8211;as were the deaths of 12 coal miners last year in the Sago Mine in West Virginia. As have been many, many more deaths of workers in America&#8217;s coal mines and factories, fishing vessels, offices and construction sites.</p>
<p>Safety concerns about the Crandall Canyon mine surfaced months ago, and safety experts warned of particular dangers in the &#8220;retreat mining&#8221; technique used there after it was approved by the federal Mine Safety and Health Administration. In retreat mining, coalminers essentially pull out roof-supporting pillars of coal as they work their way out of the mine. The retreat mining plan at Crandall Canyon, says United Mine Workers of America President Cecil Roberts, &#8220;appears to have been flawed, to say the least. In our opinion, that plan should never have been approved.&#8221;</p>
<p>No one should be surprised it was approved, though. The Bush administration has been systematically dismantling and cutting funding for workplace safety rules and oversight since it came into office.</p>
<p>Every day in 2005 (the most recent data available), 16 workers died on the job and 12,000 were made sick&#8211;and that doesn&#8217;t include the occupational diseases that kill 50,000 to 60,000 more workers each year. In many if not most of these cases, one of two things occurred: An employer disregarded the law, or the law wasn&#8217;t strong enough to protect workers.</p>
<p>Something is deeply wrong with America today. Working men and women have lost their value to the people who have been running this country for too long. Ruthless CEOs wring working people dry and the neocon ideologues in the White House help them.</p>
<p>Our wages are stagnant, our benefits are disappearing, the middle class is shrinking and, for the first time, there&#8217;s a good chance our children will not be better off than our generation. We&#8217;re the most productive workers in the world but we have to work more hours, more jobs and send more family members into the workforce just to keep up.</p>
<p>The heroes who rushed to Ground Zero to save lives and who dug and sweated and struggled for months after Sept. 11, 2001, are suffering today from neglect and indifference. Neglect and indifference left thousands stranded on rooftops and in a dark convention center after Hurricane Katrina. Neglect and indifference meant deplorable conditions for veterans recovering at Walter Reed. Neglect and indifference kill far too many of us on the job.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason so many people who never will step foot in a coal mine are riveted by the story of the trapped, dead and injured miners. There&#8217;s a reason Steve Skvara&#8217;s comment at our presidential forum moved so many people. There&#8217;s a reason candidates committed to improving the well-being of working men and women took back Congress last year and will take back the White House next year.</p>
<p>Working men and women&#8211;the great majority in this country&#8211;want to fix what&#8217;s wrong with America.
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		<title>by: Nic</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3103</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Arianna was asking about mine safety days ago….and now another disaster.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/arianna-on-countdown_b_60799.html 

Did anyone wonder how/why Stickler arrived so soon after the first collapse? Follow the Murray money....right to the doorstep of the republicans. And now Gov. Jon wants to be a part of an investigation? As always, he's a day late and a dollar short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arianna was asking about mine safety days ago….and now another disaster.<br />
<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/arianna-on-countdown_b_60799.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/arianna-on-countdown_b_60799.html</a> </p>
<p>Did anyone wonder how/why Stickler arrived so soon after the first collapse? Follow the Murray money&#8230;.right to the doorstep of the republicans. And now Gov. Jon wants to be a part of an investigation? As always, he&#8217;s a day late and a dollar short.
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		<title>by: Blogula Rasa &#187; Tragedy In Utah: Hard Questions</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3099</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 20:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] I saw this link when I happened to check back at mullentown for the local newsies&#8217; angle on the Crandall mine disaster. I&#8217;d heard the NPR story this morning, which was also careful to note that Stickler was a former coal company executive who was a Bush appointee. Why are we not surprised that yet another Federal &#8220;health and safety&#8221; type commission is being run by the political equivalent of a fox in the chicken run? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I saw this link when I happened to check back at mullentown for the local newsies&#8217; angle on the Crandall mine disaster. I&#8217;d heard the NPR story this morning, which was also careful to note that Stickler was a former coal company executive who was a Bush appointee. Why are we not surprised that yet another Federal &#8220;health and safety&#8221; type commission is being run by the political equivalent of a fox in the chicken run? [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: redtazz</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3098</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 03:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I still remember the Willberg mine disaster and the loss of a loved one nearly 20 years ago. 

This is just so sad. Devastating. Can't stop thinking about it all. Saw many flags at half mast today. Hoping they are for the miners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still remember the Willberg mine disaster and the loss of a loved one nearly 20 years ago. </p>
<p>This is just so sad. Devastating. Can&#8217;t stop thinking about it all. Saw many flags at half mast today. Hoping they are for the miners.
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		<title>by: larryomiller</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3097</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>He said it all when he pointed out that the miners were not members of the United Mine Workers.  They had no protection except the good will of Murray which is liking trusting George Bush to do the right thing.

lostinutah - the laws are all there to protect the miners but you have to have a watchdog on site and that is the role played by the union stewards and officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He said it all when he pointed out that the miners were not members of the United Mine Workers.  They had no protection except the good will of Murray which is liking trusting George Bush to do the right thing.</p>
<p>lostinutah - the laws are all there to protect the miners but you have to have a watchdog on site and that is the role played by the union stewards and officials.
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		<title>by: lostinutah</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3096</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If someone doesn't get a) the government head of the Mine Safety out (if you listened to NPR, you know that Bush had to nominate him during a Congress break because even the REPUBLICANS wouldn't approve him due to his safety record when running a mine) and b) some damn laws passed/enforced to protect these guys, we've got big problems people.

My heart and prayers go out to the miners trapped, their families and those brave people trying to save them last night.  Just heartbreaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone doesn&#8217;t get a) the government head of the Mine Safety out (if you listened to NPR, you know that Bush had to nominate him during a Congress break because even the REPUBLICANS wouldn&#8217;t approve him due to his safety record when running a mine) and b) some damn laws passed/enforced to protect these guys, we&#8217;ve got big problems people.</p>
<p>My heart and prayers go out to the miners trapped, their families and those brave people trying to save them last night.  Just heartbreaking.
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		<title>by: Sra</title>
		<link>http://mullentown.com/the-outsiders-view/#comment-3095</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, it looked alright in the text box. ::Hangs head in shame::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it looked alright in the text box. ::Hangs head in shame::
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