Comments on: Guts and Gore-y http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/ Home of Heart, Mind and Really Big Issues Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:38:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Holly http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3392 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:52:20 +0000 http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3392 I'll bite on msteele's comment about his daughter, the Democrat. M, I think it's GREAT that your daughter is adding a little spice to your family and discussions (and honest, not just because she's thinking right. I mean, uh, left. Ha.). If nothing else, her differences and your allowing her freedom to express them, will help everyone in the family understand and apply their own beliefs in a more thoughtful way. She may very well come back to your views a few years from now. Although in my case, I've only grown more radical as I've aged. My parents could only be described as FDR Demos, solidly working class, pro-union. And practicing Mormons to boot! But I've even out-liberaled them as I've gotten older. In my extended family, though, we have many conservatives. Our family events were always rough and tumble, filled with interesting debate, argument, and constant effort to understand each other's positions. In the end, we still respected each other and more importantly, loved each other. Maybe you can use your daughter's newfound liberalism as a way to help her learn to defend her beliefs--help her zero in on her positions and to express them clearly. The main thing, after all, is that she cares enough to take a position and of course, to vote! I’ll bite on msteele’s comment about his daughter, the Democrat. M, I think it’s GREAT that your daughter is adding a little spice to your family and discussions (and honest, not just because she’s thinking right. I mean, uh, left. Ha.). If nothing else, her differences and your allowing her freedom to express them, will help everyone in the family understand and apply their own beliefs in a more thoughtful way.

She may very well come back to your views a few years from now. Although in my case, I’ve only grown more radical as I’ve aged. My parents could only be described as FDR Demos, solidly working class, pro-union. And practicing Mormons to boot! But I’ve even out-liberaled them as I’ve gotten older.

In my extended family, though, we have many conservatives. Our family events were always rough and tumble, filled with interesting debate, argument, and constant effort to understand each other’s positions. In the end, we still respected each other and more importantly, loved each other.

Maybe you can use your daughter’s newfound liberalism as a way to help her learn to defend her beliefs–help her zero in on her positions and to express them clearly. The main thing, after all, is that she cares enough to take a position and of course, to vote!

]]> by: larryomiller http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3389 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:35:23 +0000 http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3389 I came into the world feet first 68 years ago and have been at odds with conventional thinking ever since. Thus, my choice for the next president is Dennis Kucinich. Yeah, I know, he's not electable. He's too short, talks funny, even sings at times but he is the only candidate that doesn't have to apologize for any votes or positions. He is right on every issue and has been for a long time. He won the ABC debate poll and ABC took it off their web site! I supported him in the last election until until it was time to throw in with the front runner, John Kerry. I should have stuck with Dennis. I'm not doing that this year. I have a photo of the two of us - how do I post it Holly? I also back a Gore candidacy but I think to no avail. If a Democrat doesn't win the presidency then I'm going to become an anchorite in Eden. I came into the world feet first 68 years ago and have been at odds with conventional thinking ever since. Thus, my choice for the next president is Dennis Kucinich. Yeah, I know, he’s not electable. He’s too short, talks funny, even sings at times but he is the only candidate that doesn’t have to apologize for any votes or positions. He is right on every issue and has been for a long time.

He won the ABC debate poll and ABC took it off their web site!

I supported him in the last election until until it was time to throw in with the front runner, John Kerry. I should have stuck with Dennis. I’m not doing that this year.

I have a photo of the two of us - how do I post it Holly?

I also back a Gore candidacy but I think to no avail.

If a Democrat doesn’t win the presidency then I’m going to become an anchorite in Eden.

]]> by: chardonnay http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3388 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:03:53 +0000 http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3388 msteele; I know how you feel...I`ve got a daughter living in CT who has voted for Bush twice! Where did I go wrong? Maybe just errant genes from her mother. Hillary`s negatives are off the scale...for every fervent supporter there is another person who would not vote for her under any circumstances. Who wants a replay of the Bill/Hill soap opera ? msteele;

I know how you feel…I`ve got a daughter living in CT who has voted for Bush twice! Where did I go wrong? Maybe just errant genes from her mother.

Hillary`s negatives are off the scale…for every fervent supporter there is another person who would not vote for her under any circumstances. Who wants a replay of the Bill/Hill soap opera ?

]]> by: mallen http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3386 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:38:48 +0000 http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3386 I love Jimmy Carter. I always thought Carter was the greatest peacemaker and humanitarian on this planet. For the next president, I have been more impressed with John Edwards than any of the others. For the record, lostinutah, I wish Elizabeth Edwards was running. I have nothing against Hillary Clinton. She is very smart and well spoken. I just don't think she can win. Holly, Glad I stumbled upon your website! I have a college degree and can hardly make sense of anything in Walsh's column. Sometimes it feels like you are talking specifically to me. I like that. I love Jimmy Carter. I always thought Carter was the greatest peacemaker and humanitarian on this planet. For the next president, I have been more impressed with John Edwards than any of the others.

For the record, lostinutah, I wish Elizabeth Edwards was running. I have nothing against Hillary Clinton. She is very smart and well spoken. I just don’t think she can win.

Holly, Glad I stumbled upon your website! I have a college degree and can hardly make sense of anything in Walsh’s column. Sometimes it feels like you are talking specifically to me. I like that.

]]> by: msteele http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3385 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:36:22 +0000 http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3385 What about Bill Richardson? Very democratic, but with plausible ideas, and the only one with real experience having to make (and live with) real executive decisions. Maybe too second tier to have a chance. I had a question for you all. I'm pretty Republican, but my daughter (18) has announced that she's a Democrat and will likely vote for Hillary. I'm taking it in stride, not really interested in arguing with her about it, but I'm curious. What would you think/do if your daughter or son suddenly said they saw a lot in conservative principles and planned on voting for Mitt or Giulani (or Ron Paul!) in the next election? What about Bill Richardson? Very democratic, but with plausible ideas, and the only one with real experience having to make (and live with) real executive decisions. Maybe too second tier to have a chance.

I had a question for you all. I’m pretty Republican, but my daughter (18) has announced that she’s a Democrat and will likely vote for Hillary. I’m taking it in stride, not really interested in arguing with her about it, but I’m curious. What would you think/do if your daughter or son suddenly said they saw a lot in conservative principles and planned on voting for Mitt or Giulani (or Ron Paul!) in the next election?

]]> by: lostinutah http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3384 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:15:03 +0000 http://mullentown.com/guts-and-gore-y/#comment-3384 I think Gore's too happy with his current job(s) and too busy laughing at everyone who thought he'd be worse than the current joker to even worry about it. I love Hillary but I don't think she's electable. That said, I'm an Obama Girl (though not the one in the video). He's just enough older than me that we could have been in high school together but I would have been the nerdy freshman to his senior. And it's kind of cool to think my generation is finally old enough to run the country. Love John Edwards too but I have to say I wish he'd stay home with his kids and Elizabeth while she's still feeling good. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat! I think Gore’s too happy with his current job(s) and too busy laughing at everyone who thought he’d be worse than the current joker to even worry about it.

I love Hillary but I don’t think she’s electable. That said, I’m an Obama Girl (though not the one in the video). He’s just enough older than me that we could have been in high school together but I would have been the nerdy freshman to his senior. And it’s kind of cool to think my generation is finally old enough to run the country.

Love John Edwards too but I have to say I wish he’d stay home with his kids and Elizabeth while she’s still feeling good. I’d vote for her in a heartbeat!

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